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Shifting Gears: Denis Beausejour's Talks About His Three Seasons of Life
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Picture yourself embarking on a transformative journey, not just across landscapes, but through the very essence of life's purpose and meaning. Denis Beausejour, a man who shifted gears from a high-flying corporate career at Procter & Gamble to the profound calling of being a pastor. Our conversation cruises through Denis's captivating life story, from navigating a bone-chilling road trip in a vintage Volkswagen Beetle to the seismic awakening that rerouted his path towards spirituality and reflection. Along the way, Denis imparts the wisdom he's gathered on the road less traveled, a journey that he's encapsulated in his heartfelt memoir, "The Biggest Idea Ever."
As we peel back the layers of Denis's corporate tenure, we uncover the entrepreneurial spirit that propelled him through the ranks and the immense insights he gained. Yet, it was the aftermath of an earthquake in Japan that shook the foundation of his life, steering him toward a new horizon where faith and purpose intersect. Denis's pivot from the business boardroom to the pulpit is not just a career change; it's an odyssey that has taken him across continents, nurturing his family, his flock, and ultimately, his own soul.
Strap in for a philosophical road trip as we venture beyond the confines of routine life, tackling the concept of bucket lists, the thrill of a dream drive across America in a Porsche 911, and the timeless allure of a historical travel companion. This episode is a map to living with intention and presence, as Denis shares how to start your day, and the art of slowing down—lessons mirrored in Denis's pilgrimage on the Camino with his wife. Whether you're seeking direction on your personal highway or just a passenger enjoying the view, this episode offers a compass to guide you towards a life of meaning. And for those eager to navigate the roads that Denis has traveled, stick around for a chance to win a copy of his book.
You can find Denis at Denis Beauséjour (denisbeausejour.com).
Be sure to pick up a copy of his book "The Biggest Idea Ever" on his website or your favorite book seller.
Absolutely nothing beats windshield time, a road trip and good conversation in the car. Welcome to another episode of Dan the Road Trip Guy, where we have entertaining conversations about cars and road trips, life lessons and maybe every now and then, a little advice. I'm your host, dan Neal Road Trip Extraordinaire, and now buckle up and enjoy the show. It is a beautiful Saturday afternoon in Cincinnati, ohio, and I am on a virtual road trip today. My guest is Dennis Bossejour. He also lives here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2:Dennis started his career at Proctor Gamble, worked there 20 plus so years. He became an executive with Proctor Gamble and then, at a moment in time, he had a encounter with God. It changed the direction of his life for what he calls seasons, and season two became the pastor of Marymount Community Church here in a suburb of Cincinnati. He is now in his third season of life as a book author and speaker. His book came out in January titled the Biggest Idea Ever Trade, anxiety, fear and Burnout for Peace, purpose and Significance. I am excited to talk to him. I'm going to do it first on Dan the Road Trip Guy. I'm going to give away five copies of his book to five listeners. You'll want to stick around for the entire episode and you can learn how to register for one of those books. Well, welcome to the show, dennis.
Speaker 1:Hey, good to be with you Dan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I appreciate you taking the time for a little virtual road trip here around Cincinnati.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll be going a little bit further than that, but it's going to be fun.
Speaker 2:Well, let's start off the show. Just take a couple minutes for my listeners and tell them just who is Dennis Bozegior.
Speaker 1:Yeah, born and raised in Canada, french Canadian name means beautiful sojourn Met my bride after college. I started working at P&G in Toronto. We've been married 42 years. We have four kids. We have 10 grandkids and one more coming. Yeah, I had three seasons. Season one was P&G executive, working in five different countries and then became a pastor that's my 2.0 here in Cincinnati at Merrimack Community Church, and then third season is an author and disciple-maker. That's kind of a thumbnail sketch on Dennis.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, thank you for that. Well, this is a day on the road trip guy, and I start my conversations with what was your first car.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my first car was a 1969 Volkswagen Beetle, kind of beat up. That's what I brought to college and that's actually the vehicle I'm going to tell you about my road trip in.
Speaker 2:All right, well, that'll be fun. Did you get that in high school?
Speaker 1:I got it right at the end of high school.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I drove it around that first summer and then brought it to college and it was kind of my car to get back and forth. My family lived in Toronto and I went to college in Kingston, ontario, at a university called Queens. It was about 225 miles back and forth so that was my commuter vehicle and I also in my years at college in the Queens Business School I worked full time at McDonald's to pay my way through college. That's another adventure.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a fun car. I should have hung on to that. It would probably be worth a little bit more today.
Speaker 1:Well, you'll know why I didn't. Okay, I tell you my road trips are great All right?
Speaker 2:well, let's move to that. I usually call them epic road trips, so this one sounds like it's going to be fun. Tell us about it.
Speaker 1:All right. So I had a really good friend at McDonald's who is a really good golfer kind of a junior champion in his area from that area. So he had the idea to go to Myrtle Beach to play golf on spring break in March of 1975. So we had the car and it's like, okay, from Kingston, ontario, canada, to Myrtle Beach it's 900 miles, it's about 14 hours of driving. So let me describe my little car, my Volkswagen Beetle. By this time I did not take good care of it. The heater boxes were rusted out, the driver's window was not working, it was stuck open.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And the clutch pedal was not working. You can imagine we're leaving Canada in early March. There's snow everywhere, it's below zero. So we decide okay, we can make it, we can do it. So we get our snowmobile suits, and so I'm talking boots, full body snowmobile suit actually not gloves, but large mittens, toaks, the whole nine yards, and also some goggles, because when you start driving at 60 miles an hour, the wind's coming in. The cold wind is coming right into your vehicle. You're driving, so anyway, we get all dressed up. His parents, my parents, didn't know about it. All the details His parents were like you guys got to be out of your mind. We did, we got packed up, we had our golf gear in the back. We stayed in cheap motels. We drove all the way down Highway 81. We cut over and we went down 95 all the way down there and then obviously over to the coast and of course it was crazy for the first five hours, but it actually started warming up and by the time we got into North Carolina it was fantastic. So we had to. We stowed the Stonewobile suits. It's like, imagine it's like they'd stowed their lunar lander, you know, walking around spacesuits. It was like stowing our snowmobile suits.
Speaker 1:We played a different golf course every day. You know, myrtle Beach was like this phenomenal golf capital of the world. I was just taking the game up Bill, my buddy. He went to the local community college, we had the same spring break week and then, but he was a lefty and a really good golfer. He was, like I said, a junior champion. I learned the game from him and you know watching him swing and then try to repeat what he was doing, looking like, looking at myself in the mirror, really watching him swing.
Speaker 1:So we went out for fast food, most meals or cheap little diners. I mean you get some great breakfast. You know, at some of these little diners, you know, hole in the wall diners, you can get a fantastic breakfast with bacon, eggs and everything for like 250 back in the day, maybe two bucks, sure. So we just loved, we just, we just rolled on and played golf, got sunburned, which was the, you know, the right of passage for Canadians escaping the long and bleak winters of the hinterlands.
Speaker 1:On the last day we played at one of the most famous courses in Myrtle Beach. It's kind of a private, semi-public course called the Dunes. It was so cool, it was like Augusta they had to us. You know it was incredible. Every hole had a different name and they had a deal. If you birdied number 13, which was called Waterloo, then you got your round free and it's kind of honor system or whatever. So Bill is just a fantastic player, so he gets on the green and two and he two putts and a par five for birdie. I don't know what I got in that hole, but I know I had a 35 foot putt for 99. First time to break 100 on 18 and I made the putt and I just went nuts. First time, first time breaking 100, you know it was. It was an epic trip. And then, of course, on the way back we had to suit up halfway back and make by their way. Now here's the thing, man, about the clutch.
Speaker 1:Yeah you had to park the car on a slight downhill because the Volkswagen was so cool, you could leave it in first gear and turn the ignition and it would turn over in first gear and you would stutter along and you'd be going first gear. So you know what can I say.
Speaker 2:It was fun story.
Speaker 1:It was crazy, but it was so much fun. I remember it so fondly.
Speaker 2:What happened to that Volkswagen?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Volkswagen ended up dying the next year. I was a sophomore in college, so I drove it for almost another entire year in three months, and then one day the ignition would no longer turn over. You could not move it and you couldn't get it out of you Couldn't. Well, actually I tried. I started in neutral and then I learned how to park it on a hill near my apartment where I lived, yeah, and then push it down the hill with the engine running and then jump in and just jam it in second and it would you know. But I realized like okay, there's no, I can't get any more mileage out of this.
Speaker 1:And unfortunately, with the Canadian winters and all the salt the body was resting, there was a hole in the floor and anytime you go through a puddle you'd get, you know, you get the splash up through the floorboard. So I finally retired it, took it to a junkyard and got a hundred bucks for it. And then my second car was a Chevy Caprice. That was a much better car. It lasted all the way through the end of college.
Speaker 2:Fun story. Thank you for sharing that, so we'll we'll change gears a little bit here. And so you graduated college and you went to work for Procter Gamble, which, for those who don't know, is a Cincinnati company. Tell us about that. How did you end up at Procter Gamble?
Speaker 1:The guy that owned. Well, when I came to college he owned one McDonald's but by the time I graduated he owned five. Prior to getting his first McDonald's franchise he was. He worked for a company called Face L Royale and that was a Canadian paper company that made paper towels and nose tissues and toilet paper and all that stuff. So he said, dude, the best company to work for out of college is Procter Gamble. They kicked our butts almost routinely.
Speaker 1:I did. I thought, okay, I'll better find out about this. So I realized I'd never heard of the company but I'd heard of all their brand. You could go in a food store, a supermarket, and you could look around the shampoo aisle, the food aisle and they had everything from Pringles to Papers. So I thought, wow, this is a really cool company.
Speaker 1:And the attraction was you could, in two to three years, you could be promoted to run a brand, be a brand manager, and that was the opportunity to run your own business, to make decisions about pricing and packaging and advertising and help bring new product formulations to market and all that stuff. And that really appealed to me. I was kind of an entrepreneur and I was doing a lot of the local marketing for the McDonald's franchise franchisee, and so I really loved marketing and I loved the idea I could run my own business coming out of college, you know, after, let's say, two or three years of training. And that's exactly how it worked out. You know, we I was running a brand after a couple of years there just worked my way up running bigger and bigger brands and then being a group brand manager and then being a division advertising guy.
Speaker 1:Right okay, oh, it was great. I really I had a ball and my wife was doing the same thing. We had a lot of friends. We had a great community there of great people who were fun to work with and fun to spend weekends with.
Speaker 2:Right, so what was your first brand there? What did you work on?
Speaker 1:Well, when I started, I worked on Pampers.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So my first and you know, my my first assignment on Pampers was to go with the professional services guy to Ottawa for a weekend baby fair. This guy had a kind of an SUV type of vehicle, maybe a big station wagon, and he had a trailer like a U-Haul and he had all the stuff in there and so we drove together. His name was Colin. We drove down from Toronto to Ottawa, where I used to live when I was younger, and we set up shop in this big baby fair and I spent the whole weekend talking to moms, pregnant moms, explaining to them about Pampers, but also current moms, and I was changing diapers, like I probably changed I don't know a hundred diapers that that weekend. So I'll tell you what, man.
Speaker 1:I came back to the office. You could, you know, go in and get all the market research and read all these research reports, but you could not replace what I learned from those women and those babies that weekend. And I was my boss, who was the brand manager at the time. He was a single guy and the his boss was a lady who had, I think, maybe two kids, young kids. She knew a hundred thousand things more than we did on the business. But man, I'll tell you what. Going to that baby fair that weekend, I had a zillion ideas on how to do advertising. What kind of product improvements like. I'll tell you one thing I learned these ladies go to this supermarket once a week, so we were selling Pampers in boxes of 12.
Speaker 1:Okay 12 diapers. Well, do the math. That's going to run out about Wednesday. So this was back in the day when it was still 80% cloth and 20% disposables. So I said, guys, all we have to do is we, we just need to put more diapers in the box and they won't run out. And they, they use Pampers and they're a little bit guilty because it is convenient and it is more expensive than cloth. So we have to remove their guilt by telling them that these are drier on the baby skin, you know, and so that was one of the things that you know we were working on. But I got a chance to talk to all these women and, like I knew for sure, I knew, without any doubt, that's what we had to do next to, to move the business ahead. And, sure enough, we started increasing the size of the diapers we even introduced a 48 pack at one point and that that business was growing by leaps and bounds. You know, we, we essentially put cloth diapers out of business.
Speaker 2:Interesting. That sounds like a fun job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was certainly not what I expected, but it was. It was really fun and you know I was. I was kind of not not too freaked out becoming a dad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I bet not. It changed diapers really well, I bet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can do it, Build the grandkids yeah fun.
Speaker 2:You spent 20, 20 years or so there and then you made a switch. You talked about that earlier when we were talking about you became a pastor. Yeah, tell us about that moment when you decided God's called me to be a pastor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was really interesting. I mean, I almost died in an earthquake in Japan in January of 95.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It kind of rattled me and got me thinking. And when I say almost died, I don't mean a near death experience where I actually left my body and all that. I mean about a 2000 pound huge steel bookcase that had tons of PNG products stored on it. In the office on our floor, on the 22nd floor, the earthquake hit and I was in the office alone because I had jet lag. It was like 545 in the morning. I just came back from the States the night before and I'm carrying a coffee and I'm going back to my office, all of a sudden the thing hits. Coffee goes flying, books and tables and computers are falling all over the place. The place is shaking like crazy and I fall to the ground and then the next thing I have a boom right behind, right beside my head, of this bookcase landing and I had no idea what was happening. When I say near death, I just mean man, another six inches and I'd be a goner.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I started asking questions and then we moved to China about seven or eight months later and then I was in China with the job of introducing tide and crest, working crazy hours. I had seven joint ventures all across the People's Republic of China. My family lived in Hong Kong, which was still owned by the United Kingdom at that time, and then I was gone all the time. There was a retreat that was offered. I said, man, I need to go from our church on Sunday morning, so I need to go to that retreat and I thought, you know, I just need a rest. I had no idea what a retreat was. I had no idea about, you know either very limited understanding of the Bible and Jesus.
Speaker 1:I was in church because my wife thought it was a good idea for our family and our kids, and I was. You know, most Sundays I was a little bit hungover in church. I go to this retreat and I, these guys, are just explaining, you know, how Jesus changed their life, and it wasn't religious, it was just business guys talking about what happened, and so I'd never, I'd never heard a guy share a story. I'd never heard a guy share his faults like that and just let their guard down. They shared some scripture and I said, oh my gosh, this is, this is real. I'm like. I'm like I'm seriously messed up. I'm an absentee dad, I'm a workaholic, I'm unfaithful to my wife, I mean, I'm actually pretty successful on the outside, but I'm rotten on the inside. And now I know why I'm not doing. I'm not doing things God's way. And so, yeah, that was the moment where I, yeah, I just did a 180 in tears and received the good news, started, yeah, started walking with Jesus. Shortly after, maybe a few months, they transferred me to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1:I arrived here to be the global VP of marketing in 96 and I did that job for four years. And in 2000, I just felt God say, okay, we're done here, I need you to, I need you to check out, and what are we doing? I said yeah, I said what are we doing? And he goes, I'll tell you later.
Speaker 1:So it was one of those, uh, leaving a seven figure job for an unknown situation. But I, I just felt completely like this is the thing, uh, this is the thing God wants me to do. And so I did, and it took about five years, four, four years from there to figure, finished seminary and do some ministry with campus crusade and do some other things and preach a lot, to then realize, okay, I'm, I'm supposed to be a pastor. So I started praying about that and became became the pastor at Marymont and it was kind of a miraculous thing. The way it came about was um, my son who graduated from CHCA, went to William and Mary and another girl who graduated from Marymont high school went to William and Mary and they didn't know each other but they met there.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Her dad came in for a for a lunch on a Friday. She dragged him along because they were good friends. He was an accountant guy and my son goes what else do you do besides being an accountant? He goes well, I'm the pastoral search chair for my church Marymont community church and my son goes well. My dad you need to talk to my dad because he's he's been on a journey into ministry and he's supposed to be a pastor. I heard dad called me and we started interviewing and the rest is history. It's kind of amazing.
Speaker 2:That is, and I usually say there's no just happenings, and thank God, god aligned. You know what if? What if your son went to college someplace else or you know whatever hadn't linked up with this this young lady.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I just felt like for all those years leading up to the earthquake and then leading up to the retreat and then leading up to moving to Cincinnati and then leading up to go into Marymont, I just felt like I was in a tractor beam half the time. You know where stuff was happening and it was like, wow, okay, I'm going to follow that thread. And so I think God trained me early on to hear his voice and to pay attention to what he's doing. So and that that became kind of the. The gist of my ministry was to help business people, because most of my church was business type people. Help them and you know, with young families, help them hear God's voice and do what he's wants them to do. It's a bit of an adventure and a way to you know it's a great way to live.
Speaker 2:And so then you moved on to. I forget what you called it, I'll just call it act three. And that was. You became an author, yeah, and speaker, I guess. But tell us about how long did it take to write this book? Well, at the lifetime. With all this experience.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right. So in one sense it was written over four decades two at P&G and two pastoring a church. What we did is we just felt we were supposed to step out of staff at Marymont. So we stayed in the church and my associate is just fantastic and he's crushing it right now. He's doing a great job. So we're in the church. We took a sabbatical and stayed away for a while, which is sort of the conventional wisdom. When an existing pastor leaves and he wants to stay in the church, it's good to get lost for a while so the new guy can get himself sorted out. So during that time we took a sabbatical and we walked the Camino de Santiago over in Spain. It wasn't a motorized road trip, but it was a pedestrian road trip of 500 miles. We walked in 42 days, Wow.
Speaker 2:So you did the whole walk the whole Camino.
Speaker 1:Yep, we walked across. And then we stayed in Europe for another two months and we went to Portugal, france and Greece and Turkey and Israel and Jordan. So we kind of had another road trip together. And once we got done the walk, that was enough walking. So we basically rented cars and drove them all over Europe, all over these different places. So it was during that time I had the inspiration to write the book. So when we got back I started writing and I think my first draft was 85,000 words and it took me 26 days of writing from about eight o'clock to four o'clock every day, 26 days in a row, just kind of poured out of me. And then it's 63,000 words as published now. So it's been rewritten like 15 times.
Speaker 1:But it was a phenomenal experience. It's kind of a memoir. It's a business and spirituality memoir. So it's pretty amazing reliving your life and deciding what stories do you want to put in there and what stories don't really belong. And you don't want to put all your best moments in there because then it would be a little bit like a preening exercise. And then you don't want to put all your worst moments in there because then you depress the hell out of everybody. I just decided to just listen, and so that was part of the editing process, but it was a ton of fun. I've learned a lot and, yeah, it came out in the middle of January, so we're just past the two month mark. Yeah, it's going great.
Speaker 2:Good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm really enjoying talking about it and doing podcasts and different things. It's been great.
Speaker 2:Well, I told you earlier on, it's in my queue, I bought it and I got to queue it up here soon.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Dan. I appreciate it. Yeah, look forward to talking about it once you've had a chance to read it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you enjoy this road trip, we may have to do another one to talk about your travels overseas. Mm-hmm. Yep, hey, tell me so. You've been around the world working and traveling, but anything on your bucket list.
Speaker 1:B bucket lists are interesting because they're sort of. I think if you're just pursuing that, you tend to be able to knock quite a few of them off. But I was thinking about it and the one that I probably would most like is if it ever gets affordable is to go into space. Okay, that would be pretty cool. But as far as other things, yeah, we've been super fortunate Other things on planet Earth. We've been super fortunate to be able to do a lot of stuff just because we got moved around so many places that it was like, for example, a really good way to go from Australia to Cincinnati is to fly around the South Pole and come up and spend some time in Buenos Aires on the way and that kind of stuff. So we've had opportunities like that. But I'd love to go into space. I'd love to be weightless. The closest thing I've come to it is scuba diving, where you're sort of neutral buoyancy, but weightless would be fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I hope you get to do that someday.
Speaker 1:Well, it is getting cheaper and they are sending civilians up there now. So who knows?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Who knows.
Speaker 2:So here's a question. It's probably one of my favorite questions because it lets people kind of think about road trip. But if you could go on a road trip with anyone today, living or deceased, who would it be? What would you drive? Where would you go? What would you talk about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's great as far as the living goes. I love doing road trips with my wife and I love, I love, and probably what we would want to do now is we'd probably want to go across the US and I would. If I could wave a magic wand, it would be a 9-11, a Porsche 9-11 would be my vehicle of choice. Yeah, it would be a blast to almost like relive the Gumball rally. I don't know if you know that movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know that movie and I actually ride around every year with Brock Yeats Jr in One Lap of America, which is it's a little different today, but his dad was the creator of the Cannonball Run.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, well, you got. You're totally dialed in. As far as those who are not living, it would be awesome to travel with the Apostle Paul. That guy put on about 15,000 miles the old-fashioned way of rolling around on Roman cargo ships and walking or using a mule or something. But we've been through that part of the world. It's so drivable now. They've put really nice highways and, I think, driving. We did a bit of that in Turkey and Greece during our sabbatical, but I would love to be able to do that with the Apostle Paul. Okay, yeah, and again a 9-11 with a target top.
Speaker 2:There you go and, yeah, that would be fun. So if you decide to go across country, we have we have a map for you and you can take this US route 50, which is right out here in Bias, and go all the way to California, which is the most beautiful drive through Utah and Nevada.
Speaker 1:Oh, Wow yeah and does, doesn't 50? Does it go north a bit, to Chicago, or no?
Speaker 2:50 actually goes from Maryland cross-country to, basically, sacramento is kind of where we get off and on, but Ocean City, maryland, is technically the starting point. So it's a great road even here in our own little part of the world it's. It's kind of a beautiful drive if you go east.
Speaker 1:So yeah, awesome, all right Well.
Speaker 2:So you've written a book, you've been a pastor, you've been a business executive. What's some advice you might leave my listeners with on life?
Speaker 1:Well, thank thanks for asking. I would say three things. I would say start every day Quietly with God. Just enter the day slowly and quietly. Number two Read the Bible daily. And number three don't hurry. Don't hurry Relentlessly. Eliminate. Hurry. We learned this on the Camino, because you know there are people on the Camino who will move your luggage around and people are all running and some people are running it and they're trying to get it done in nine days or eight days or whatever. Anyway, it's just Just insanity. But to go slow and then to be so, what we did is we. We didn't have anybody helping us, we just had 12 pound backpacks, the two of us, oh, and we walked and we made a decision that we will. We will stop wherever we stop and if somebody we meet, somebody Interesting, we're just gonna stop. You know, just enjoy the moment. And we did that. We did that for 42 days, met some incredible people and I think we came away saying we're never gonna hurry again.
Speaker 2:Well, that's great advice. All three are great and yeah, particularly always usually go. I don't think Jesus gotten a big hurry.
Speaker 1:No, and he was so present, so present when he was, and so, like you said, purposeful, unrushed. You know the guys, the guys daughter is dying and and you know, jesus stops and he meets this old lady. He's bent over and she touches his robe. And who touched my? Who touched me? You know? And he stops. You know, and I can imagine this whole exchange with this guy or with this woman, the dad going like we're in a terrible hurry, we're in a terrible hurry, jesus doesn't care, because she's gonna die and he's gonna raise her from the dead. He doesn't need a hurry. It's just Just amazing.
Speaker 2:Yep, we live in a pretty hurry up society today.
Speaker 1:Right, you know, that's what I love about this podcast is it's it's like road trip. You know this conversation has been unhurried, the road trip was unhurried and I just love that concept of life as a road trip. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, dennis, I really appreciate you doing this. I think we've met one time in and in Marymont Church, but I just appreciate you taking my call and agreeing to be on here and as we, as we leave our little trip here and we wrap up, leave my listeners with how to find your book or charity or whatever it is you want to tell them.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thanks, dan. I loved our first meeting at Marymont. Good to be on with you today. Great, I just great. Concept this, this program. But as far as just how to reach me or connect or do the next thing, the book, the biggest idea ever trade, anxiety, fear and burnout for peace, purpose and significance. It's available on Amazon, but you can also go to my website, which is Dennis post measure calm Dennis with one in. You go there and you can download chapter one for free and just see if you like it. You can also download an essay I wrote on the Camino or an essay I wrote on Israel, and I also have like a 40-day devotional. There's a bunch of free stuff there. There's also a link to buy the book.
Speaker 2:Okay, Enjoy. I'll make sure I put that in our show notes and hopefully some people will check you out.
Speaker 1:That would be great Dennis.
Speaker 2:Thank you again for coming on this trip and I'll look forward to catching up with you in the future.
Speaker 1:All right and thanks very much. Good to be with you and your listeners today. Have a great day.
Speaker 2:So I mentioned at the top of the show I was going to do a giveaway of five copies of Dennis's book the biggest idea ever. If you would like to be entered in the contest, go to my website. Danny, neil, d A, n, n, y, n, e a L dot com. Forward slash idea. I will choose five random names from the entries and if you're lucky enough to get one of those, I will get in touch with you and ship it to you. Until we meet up again, you can find me on the internet at Dan the road trip guycom. I hope you will follow this podcast so that you don't miss any Upcoming episodes and share it with your family and friends so they can enjoy the stories of my guests also. Until we meet again On a future episode, keep having conversations with each other and keep driving.
