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Trading Tech for Trails: Miranda Cocca's Journey on the Pacific Crest Trail
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How does leaving a stable tech career to hike over 2,600 miles across rugged terrain sound to you? Meet Miranda Cocca, whose journey on the Pacific Crest Trail offers an inspiring lesson in embracing life's unpredictable adventures. Trading her desk job in Cincinnati for the trail's breathtaking mountain views and unexpected challenges, Miranda shares how each step transformed her outlook on life. From a snowy Easter drive through the Badlands in her RAV4 to navigating the strategic intricacies of long-distance hiking, Miranda’s story is a testament to resilience and the unexpected joys that come with seizing opportunities.
Beyond the miles hiked and the injuries endured, Miranda's tale is enriched with encounters that highlight the human spirit. Her interactions with "trail angels"—those kind souls offering food, shelter, and support along the way—illustrate that generosity knows no boundaries nor requires perfection. These experiences taught her invaluable lessons about community, kindness, and the beauty of imperfection. Join us as Miranda reflects on her transformative trek, the friendships forged on the trail, and the enduring impact of her business education focused on social justice from Xavier University. This episode promises to inspire, reminding us all of the powerful journey of self-discovery that awaits when we step outside our comfort zones.
Welcome to another episode of Dan the Road Trip Guy. I'm so glad you're here. I'm your host, Dan Neal. If this is your first time to listen, welcome. If you're a regular listener, you know what this podcast is about. It's about the stories of my guest. Here we'll talk about cars and road trips, careers, life lessons and sometimes even a little bit of advice from my guest. For me, there's nothing better than a great road trip, except maybe hearing the incredible stories of my guest. So for the next 30 minutes, buckle up and enjoy the show.
Speaker 1:My guest today is a young lady originally from the Indianapolis area. She moved to Cincinnati. Her name is Miranda Coca. Miranda and I met through a business relationship. She was working for a tech company here in Cincinnati and we were looking at them for some services. She left that company earlier this year to take on the Pacific Crest Trail and she is here to share about road trips and cars and her experience on that trail. This was an encouraging story for me and I think it will be for you, as Miranda headed out to take on over 2,600 miles on the Pacific Crest Trail. Welcome to the show, Miranda, Thank you so much for having me Pleasure to have you here.
Speaker 1:Let's start the show off. Who is Miranda Koka?
Speaker 2:Oh, I feel like as maybe a younger person in this world. I feel like the version of myself changes about every few years. But a little bit about me is I grew up in Indianapolis, went off to college in Cincinnati, went to Xavier, you know, have always spent my career within the tech space, really enjoy the work that I get to do working with companies and clients in that space. But I've, you know, over the last few years developed a real passion for the outdoors and specifically backpacking, and so that's kind of changed my life in more ways than one the last few years and you know a big part of, I think, why you wanted me on the show here today.
Speaker 1:We'll get to that. So tell me any great first car stories. What was your first car?
Speaker 2:My first car. Well, I think, technically it was a Toyota Camry, it was an 05. But then, of course, you know, you get to an age where you and your sibling are battling out the car and I eventually ended up with a Toyota Camry 03. And that was the one that I took on a few road trips and drove around for a few years. Unfortunately, it didn't last me as long as I was hoping for, but it was my first car.
Speaker 1:Usually Toyotas go forever.
Speaker 2:I was really hoping it would go forever, but it did not, and unfortunately I ended up spending too much to put into it than it was worth at the end of the day.
Speaker 1:Did you buy that used?
Speaker 2:I did, yes, got it used, and I think that was I don't know. Yeah, my brother still has his, so his has lasted him a lot longer than mine lasted me. But yeah, I guess you never really know when you get a used car how it's going to turn out sometimes.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and did you get that in college, high school or after?
Speaker 2:I got the yeah, the 03 Toyota Camry I got in college so I only drove it around for about three years. It really didn't last me long. Yeah, it was a reliable car for a bit and did like a few road trips with it. Drove it to Florida one time and it made it back. But eventually I realized, oh, I couldn't, I can't. I was living in, about to move to Cincinnati and I realized, oh, I can't drive between Indianapolis and Cincinnati anymore. This car is not going to be a reliable transportation.
Speaker 1:Right, you grew up in Indianapolis, but you came to school in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2:I, uh, I went to Xavier University and, as many people in Cincinnati already know, it's a Jesuit university and, while I don't consider myself Catholic, I really wanted a school that had more of a focus on social justice. So I was in the business school there. But I wanted an education focused on social justice and have always been passionate about tying for-profit business with social responsibility and so, to kind of make that possible, going to Xavier. So it was a really good school to attend. I enjoyed living in a city and I think being in a city as a college student provides a lot of great opportunities for internships and was a fun place for me to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you ended up staying here, I guess, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I moved back to Cincinnati for a few years and then I ended up staying here, I guess, right? Yeah, I moved back to Cincinnati for a few years and then, you know, I ended up at Engage Partners and that's what brought me back to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1:And that's how we met.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You mentioned before we started. You had some epic road trips in that Camry and other cars.
Speaker 2:Tell me about one I feel like this is the year of road trips for me. I didn't really see myself as someone who loved road trips, but I have a newer vehicle now that I fully trust, and so it's a lot more fun to be taking a road trip. I have not once, but twice driven across the country this year. I actually really like road trips. I like the excuse to kind of sit in the car and listen to music, and I again did a road trip across country twice this year and both times was with a really good friend of mine, and I feel like you just always look back on road trips and realize just some random things that happened that wouldn't have happened if you were on a road trip Like the first. I drove out from Cincinnati to Idaho in late March of this year and one of the things is we drove through the Badlands on Easter and you know driving no one goes to the Badlands in late March because, there's snow on the ground and it's not going to be enjoyable at all.
Speaker 2:It's super windy and we drive in and no one is there. No one's there. You can't really even like see that far in front of you, so you can't see the beauty that is the Badlands. And then we decided to go to Mount Rushmore. I it's like one of those was funny in the moment and like I I think we'll always look back on this as like a oh, this wouldn't have happened if we were on a road trip. We would have planned for prettier weather, but we, we got to Mount Rushmore and I remember my, my friend she's like the kindest person and she was so nice to the guy who was like you know we had to pay to get in so nice to him, like wishing him happy Easter, all that.
Speaker 2:And we drive in, park, drive in and we start walking out to Mount Rushmore and we realized, oh, we can't see anything. It's way too cloudy and like walk straight up and you know we're at like the closest point we can possibly be to mount rushmore and still can't see anything. It was just like you know, one of those funny moments again of like no one's in mount rushmore at the end of march, because that's not a great time to see it. Uh, early april, and I think that's just like how road trips go. There's like just funny moments that you look back on. I was like, oh, I didn't see that one coming for sure, yeah.
Speaker 1:So now you have, you have to go back at some point so you can see mount rushmore and go.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's what you missed I know, I know I'm like. Well, now it's still on the list of places to go, because I didn't see it the first time now you know us 50.
Speaker 1:It's a cross country highway. Have you been on that highway?
Speaker 2:I, yes, I think I have a little bit, not much.
Speaker 1:Well, so the next trip you make, you're going to have to at least drive it from Sacramento, california, to Colorado. Then you can jump on the interstate and go. It's the most beautiful. I tell people it's the most beautiful drive, but kind of the badlands it's, uh, it's called the loneliest road in america, uh for good reason. Yeah, I bet that's a pretty drive though yeah, it's beautiful so you'll have to do that yeah I don't know what's it been about.
Speaker 2:A year or so you quit your job right yeah, it was at the end of march of this year that I march this year.
Speaker 1:I was at the end of March of this year that I quit March this year. Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was March of this year. I know time is crazy, but yeah, march of this year.
Speaker 1:And you took off to the West Coast because you're going to walk the Pacific Crest Trail.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if you want me to dive into it and explain a bit about the PCP. Well, yeah, we'll get there.
Speaker 1:But did you just wake up one morning and go? This is what I'm going to do. Tell me what put that on your list of? I've got to go hike this.
Speaker 2:I mean, as I kind of said in my intro, I have enjoyed hiking over the last few years and gotten into that, but it wasn't something. I mean I grew up camping every so often but I wouldn't say I backpacked or I, you know, loved the outdoors. I think a lot of people can relate to this. During COVID I spent a lot of time outside, spent a lot of time camping with friends, and so that was like my toe back into enjoying camping, enjoying being outdoors. And I say I went on my first real backpacking trip in September of 21. So it's actually right, as I was moving from Indianapolis back to Cincinnati to start my job at Engage Partners, I did a week long backpacking trip in the Wind River Range in Wyoming and it was with three other women and friends. I guess in some ways it changed my life. I just fell in love with hiking out in such a remote place and experiencing beauty that I had never seen before. It's funny because the three other women that I hiked with, they were in great shape, they were always climbing up the passes well before me and I was dragging behind. You know, out of shape and not used to the altitude at all, but I loved every minute of it. I just thought it was beautiful and, yeah, I love so many aspects of backpacking. So I kind of left that trip thinking like, okay, I want to do more of these and I think I just had like a lot of little moments like I there's a trail called the Sheltowee that goes through a big section of Kentucky and so I did that whole trail across 2022, continue to do other backpacking trips. I had a good friend in 2023 who hiked the whole Appalachian Trail. So I had like little little moments of seeing people hiking things that I might want to do or hiking with other people, backpacking with other people. That kind of got things. You know, gears turning in my head and I think I'm always someone who likes a challenge. I look back on the thing you know, those significant moments in life, and recognize there's a moment of like okay, I could do the same thing or I could take on a new challenge and I was really enjoying my career and what I was doing in Cincinnati the last two plus years. That like filled me up in so many ways.
Speaker 2:But I kind of wanted to take on a personal challenge and the Pacific Crest Trail or doing a long distance backpacking trip is definitely a new challenge. I feel like I had this moment in time where I realized I'd never really taken on a challenge in which I didn't think I could necessarily succeed at it, and so I was interested in trying something that would really push me out of my comfort zone in a new way and something that I wasn't guaranteed to be successful at. Yeah, that excited me, I think, as, like a solo female hiker, I definitely had a lot of I had to process am I okay hiking alone? That was a huge component of me discerning whether or not I was going to do a long distance hike.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, I would say there was like a few, a number of moments in which I was surrounded by people who knew the backpacking world and enjoyed backpacking, and so I could kind of test out whether I would enjoy doing a through hike. And then, just like an interest in a challenge and being in just a really unique season of life where I felt like, okay, if I'm going to do a through hike like this is, this is the best time to do it. And so that's how I ended up deciding on the PCT. I, you know people decide like okay, which, which, there's a few different long distance trails in the U? S, but I kind of always knew if I was going to do a long distance trail, it was going to be the Pacific Crest Trail. It's it's just beautiful.
Speaker 1:And for those who don't know that are listening, it begins where and ends where, and how long is it.
Speaker 2:Pacific Crest Trail. Most people hike it north. So they say Nobo, you can hike it south or Sobo, but most people I think like 80% of people who do the Pacific Crest Trail they hike it north. And if they're hiking it north they start just 45 minutes east like driving distance, east of San Diego on the Mexico-US border, and you go north to Canada. So you go all the way through California, oregon and Washington. It's 2,650 odd miles and it goes through 700 miles of desert. In California it goes through the Sierras and Yosemite, really close to Mount Whitney A lot of PCT hikers hike Mount Whitney and then, yeah, you cross through all of Oregon and Washington. So, yeah, in terms of the beauty of hiking a trail like the Pacific Crest Trail, it's pretty incredible what you get to see.
Speaker 1:And when did you start?
Speaker 2:There's a permit system for it, so there was some amount of good luck in that. It's kind of a harder permit to get over the years or has become one, but I ended up getting a permit for 4-14. So April 14th started April 14th, and then the last day I was on trail was October 2nd.
Speaker 1:On October 2nd. Where did you? You didn't complete the trail yet, correct?
Speaker 2:Correct. Yeah, I finished in the town of Aetna in Northern California, okay, but I didn't technically go in order, so I did Oregon, which is obviously north of Northern California. But yeah, my last day, october 2nd, was in Northern California, in Aetna.
Speaker 1:Okay, and so did you skip around then got injured at about 1100 mile mark.
Speaker 2:When I got back onto trail I realized um, oregon is known as like it's crazy to say this to you know non-backpackers. But oregon is relatively a very easy section of trail. People hike it very quickly because it's just softer terrain through most of it, less elevation, lower altitude. There's a number of different factors there and as someone who was injured I knew if I was going to recover Oregon would be the best place to do that. So I actually flipped up to Oregon and then, when I finished Oregon, I flipped back down to do Northern California.
Speaker 2:So that's why I ended in Edna.
Speaker 1:Okay. Was there a moment out there where you said okay?
Speaker 2:what was.
Speaker 1:I thinking.
Speaker 2:There is definitely a number of those moments. I think, overall, every single day, I was happy to be out there, like I recognize that very few people have an opportunity like the opportunity that I had in life and I think, just as like a Midwesterner maybe maybe it's not the case, but I think as a Midwesterner, like I was just in awe every single day to be out there and, yeah, it was uncomfortable, like you know every, every other day there was some new, random, weird thing that was happening. You know, like chafing.
Speaker 2:I didn't expect or some some uncomfortable aspect of being out in the woods for so long sure but I mean, I truly loved it and I was happy to like have those uncomfortable moments for other moments. That was like a beautiful sunrise or a sunset or yeah, getting up to the top of like a mountain pass and being able to see an incredible view.
Speaker 1:So did you set goals like each day, oh, this is where I want to get to. Or did you just take it as it came?
Speaker 2:yeah, at the beginning I feel like my and I don't think this is as common for other hikers, but for me each section of the trail was very different, mainly because I got injured the beginning of the hike.
Speaker 2:I was just figuring out what it looks like to do a through hike. Prior to starting on the PCT, I had never done more than three and a half days out on trail in a row, and so there was a lot of newness that came with it. I was more experienced than a number of people, but still a lot of newness, and so I just took it as it came than a number of people, but still a lot of newness, and so I just took it as it came. And then, as I, when I was in Oregon and injured, I had like a pretty strict schedule that I kept to in terms of just not wanting to push my body too much. And then in Northern California, which was like the last section that I did, I had some like pretty strict deadlines to make sure that I got the miles in that I needed. I had an Excel spreadsheet for all of Oregon and Northern California that I stuck to very, very tightly.
Speaker 1:Now, where do you sleep?
Speaker 2:For modern day through hikers? Definitely not the case, you know, 10 plus years ago. But for most hikers these days we all use an app. There's a few different ones out there, but I used an app and it kind of tracked, helped me track miles, helped make sure that I was on the path. If I didn't feel comfortable that I was actually on the right path Although normally that wasn't a problem and there was designated camp spots it depended on where you were, because the PCT goes through. It goes through private land.
Speaker 2:You know it can be like timber property, it can be public land. You know national parks. We PC hikers hike through a lot variety of areas, so it kind of the rules depend on what you could and couldn't do depending on what area you were in. But for the most part there was designated camp spot, as in like. You looked at the map and saw that there was a camp spot. There wasn't like a bathroom there or you know any shelter, but there's a space large enough to pitch your own tent.
Speaker 1:Okay, and what about food? Is there places to get food or do you have to carry everything with you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the longest I ever carried food was probably close to a week in the Sierras. It's a pretty remote area and so yeah, I think I carried close to seven days of food at one point, but other than that it was again depends on what area you were in. But when I started the trail I didn't do any shipping of food ahead of time. I would just hike for a set amount of days mileage and then I would get into the nearest town and resupply, get food from a random grocery store, normally, kind of put that all together and get back out on trail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and did you hike with other people?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's the great thing about the PCT is that there's you know there's. They hand out 50 permits per day for like end of part of March to end of May and so you know you're starting with 50 other people go. But you just knew that there was 50 people who got a permit for the day that you also had a permit and so naturally I met people that first, even honestly, before I started on trail. But really I met people that first day on trail, just start hiking with them and realize okay, we're the same pace, I enjoy spending time with you and I ended up hiking pretty much with a group of people from when I started at the Mexico-US border to when I got injured. It's a pretty social trail in that way. Again, it looked different once I got injured, but for the first half of the mileage-wise of the trail for me I was hiking with people.
Speaker 1:How long were you? I assume you were down with your injury for a bit.
Speaker 2:I had a stress reaction in my third metatarsal so it quickly can lead to a stress fracture which would completely be a hike ender. You know you're not supposed to really walk on those sorts of things for six to eight weeks, but I was fortunate to catch it early enough, get an MRI and know that it was a stress reaction. So I I was off trail for less than three weeks, about two and a half weeks.
Speaker 2:So not a long time, but in hiking world that's a very long time. When you know that snow is hitting Washington. Two and a half weeks is a is a very long time, and more than that I I got back on trail. I was doing 10-mile days and most people in Oregon do 25, 30-mile days. I was at a very different pace than all of my hiking peers when I got back on, but was happy to be back there hiking again, yeah sure.
Speaker 1:Is there one particular place that you just have this great memory of? Is there one particular place that you just have this great memory of, whether it be a sunrise or a sunset, or is there something you saw that just is always going to be in your mind?
Speaker 2:I would say my favorite section of the hike was the Sierras. It's, you know, the middle of California and I think hiking through that section it's an area where it's very hard to hike in. That section Be just in the sense that you have to get a permit if you're ever going to hike in that section, so there's less people there than at any other place that you're going to hike most days, so pretty remote. That's where I was carrying seven days of food and it was interesting because there's definitely challenges, Like most days you were hiking in some amount of snow and again, as someone from the Midwest, I never really dealt with hiking in snow. So there was definitely challenges that came with the Sierras, but I would say every single day in the Sierras.
Speaker 2:I was just blown away I was actually talking to a friend about this the other day Like I would stand somewhere and it's hard to like describe, but I would stand looking out onto a view of like these beautiful mountains and know, even standing there I wasn't fully comprehending what I was a part of, Because it's just. It's just. The view is is absolutely stunning to see all these mountains and the snow and the peaks and to be out in an area that so few people experience. Yeah, it was just like breathtaking. Every single day it's one of those moments where you take a photo and you're like, well, that doesn't do it justice at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to say my wife and I always do that We'll be out on a hike, we'll be someplace driving, we'll take a photo and I'll be like, oh well, that's disappointing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but I didn't love always hiking in the dark, but to see a sunrise or a sunset in the mountains is stunning, so I always really like those points. And yeah, there's definitely sections that were prettier than others, but every single day there was a pretty view at some point.
Speaker 1:So you haven't finished the trail yet. What's the plan?
Speaker 2:When I got injured I kind of had like a few different decisions to make in terms of what it was going to look like I could have. I decided ultimately not to hike Washington this year. So I didn't get to Canada and really kind of decide again to flip back to Northern California and to do those those miles, because my goal is to stay in the Pacific Northwest and so I thought it'd be easier for me to make up Washington over the next few years. So yeah, I haven't I haven't yet PCTY set foot in in Washington, but I could probably do it in a few different section week-long hikes. So my goal is to still get it done. That's the whole reason why I decided to flip down to Northern California was I had a goal of doing the PCT and while I didn't get it done this year, it's still the goal that I want to accomplish the whole thing.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I think over the next few years I'll make up Washington sections and I didn't do like a very small section in Oregon because there was wildfires, like this year. There was just a ton of wildfires, so there was most of like half of Northern California at one point was closed. The trail was closed due to fires. Oregon, there was a section from April until like mid-October that was closed due to fires and, like almost half of Washington, was closed due to fires at one point. So this year's, through hikers and doing the PCT, experienced a lot of navigating forest fires but hopefully doing making up Washington in sections that will be like easier to navigate.
Speaker 1:Well, good luck on that. We'll make sure we're still following along when you start.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, all right. So this is a big bucket list item that you just worked on, but what else is on your bucket list. You got any other big hikes or any other adventures that are on your bucket list? You're a young person.
Speaker 2:It's funny, when you put down that question, nothing came to mind at first and I kind of just laughed at myself. I was like nothing's coming to mind, you know like. But I quickly came up with things, don't worry. Uh, no, I think I would still like to do some smaller long distance hikes.
Speaker 2:So, there's like a trail in Colorado, there's one in Arizona and I want to do some international backpacking. I mean a lot of international backpacking. You get coffee halfway through the day and you get like a nice warm meal at the end of the day, and I didn't get either of those two things on my trail. So I think that sounds wonderful, yeah that would be good. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I hope you get to do that. Here's a favorite question for you If you could take a road trip with anyone you've been on some road trips If you could take it with anyone, living or deceased, who would it be? Where would you go? What are you going to drive? What are you going to talk about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great question. I would probably want to do a road trip with my mom's mom, darlene, so my middle name is actually because of Darlene. She passed before I was born and I have this woman who I'm related to, who I only know so much about. I would love to have the opportunity to go on a road trip with Darlene. Would love to have the opportunity to go on a road trip with Darlene. I think it would be really sweet to drive through Southern Indiana where she grew up, and understand more about her childhood and kind of the life that she lived.
Speaker 1:That would be a fun trip. What do you think? One question you would ask her.
Speaker 2:I would ask her how she did it. I mean, what I know about her is that she is a really hardworking woman and that she had so many miscellaneous jobs growing up and raising her kids, and I would be so curious like what motivated her most days and like brought her joy.
Speaker 1:Okay, great question. Thank you for sharing that. That would be a fun trip. All right, you're young, miranda, but I always like to ask my guests hey, leave my listeners with some life advice. Life advice, just advice in general, hiking advice, whatever you wanna leave us with.
Speaker 2:I would say I do wanna focus it on my hike a bit.
Speaker 2:I think one of the unique parts about this season of life I've been, you know I, as you know, I quit my job, I drove across the country, did this hike, and now I've decided to stay kind of out west.
Speaker 2:I, like, through that, have relied a lot on other people to help make this possible, like I you know I I wouldn't there's so many things that would have would look different if I didn't have people in my life to help support me. But I think one of the interesting things about and it connects to this, one of the interesting things about a through hike is that, and specifically like the hikes that we have in the U? S, is there's a huge culture around trail angels. Trail angels are the people who, whether they know it or not, help a hiker and many like. A common thing is that you would get to a trail and maybe there's you'd be hiking on a trail and there's a trailhead in which you know, everyday people can access the trail and trail angels would set up food for hikers and it could be, you know, a fun, like I.
Speaker 2:One morning I had pancakes on trail because a trail angel drove to this like very remote part of the desert and like set up pancakes, so it can be like a very. You know that takes a lot of effort to make happen. But there was also one time where I had someone who I, just like you know, cross paths with on trail and they offered me like a Gatorade you know it doesn't have to be anything huge, but a lot of times trail angels whether they know it or whether they know about a hike or not, it's like you know, giving them a gift many times like trail angels will help help people with housing. So, especially towards the end of my hike, I spent a month hiking through Northern California and I I was still hiking that I didn't hike it with any other people at the time just because of, again, my injury and the timing in which I went through Northern California. And at the time at the beginning of my hike, I really was splitting a hotel with a few people and so it became a cheap place to stay when I wanted a night in town, whereas towards the end of my hike a $ a $200 hotel is is a $200 hotel for one person.
Speaker 2:So I ended up staying with trail angels a few different times and they were just so kind and gracious and I think one of the things that like struck me in that is that they didn't have to have a perfect setup to still be a generous host and someone who was like excited to give and I that was just like such a gift to me both as, like you know in the moment, a gift that I could receive a warm meal or I could receive just like shelter over my head or a warm shower.
Speaker 2:You know all things that were very important for a hiker. But I think, more than that, it was like a good reminder to show up and care for people, even if it's not going to be perfect Like their houses were messy, you know, at times, or like they didn't have you know all the things I think we think we need to host people, and so I think it was like the reminder to me, and what I'm trying to like live out now is like show up for people, even if it's not perfect. You know, like host someone for dinner, even if it's not like a gourmet meal, or like have a friend over, or, like you know, host someone at your house, even if, like, your house is messy and I don't know that's a very long-winded thing to leave your listeners with, but I think it's the reminder to show up and be generous to people, even if it's not perfect.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if we wait around until it's perfect, we may miss the opportunity, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah right.
Speaker 1:Well, miranda, this has been fun. So glad to catch up. Didn't realize you were still on the West Coast and I just wish you all the best. And before we leave here, if you want to leave my listeners with a shout out to something I know you had a, no, I don't have anything. Yeah, and that's cool too. I've had people go. I don't have anything, dan Sorry.
Speaker 2:I don't think I have anything. That's good.
Speaker 1:We'll give a shout out to how we connected. And good, We'll give a shout out to how we connected and that's with a company here in Cincinnati called Engage.
Speaker 2:Give a shout out to Engage. It's fun when professional and personal collide.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely Well, Miranda, this has been fun. Thank you again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you so much Dan.
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